My motherland


 
 
 

Glory to thee, Motherland
O Motherland of mine.
Sweet is thy beauty,
Sweet is thy fragrance,
Around thee we gather
As one people,
As one nation,
In peace, justice and liberty.
Beloved Country,
May God bless thee
For ever and ever.

 
 
 

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18 réponses à “My motherland

  1. Gato Napolitaine ek Coca.

  2. Glwar a twa, mama later.

  3. marie-lucie

    Est-ce que les quatre couleurs du drapeau ont une signification symbolique?

  4. Quoth Wikipedia:

    * Red: For the blood shed in the struggle for independence

    * Blue: the Indian Ocean, in the middle of which Mauritius is situated

    * Yellow: the new light of independence shining over the island and the golden sunshine

    * Green: the lush vegetation of the island.

  5. Linus Asiaticus Magnus

    There was no bloodshed and no struggle for Independence – it was a neat little deal between SSR and Harold Wilson, involving among other things, the Chagos islands.

    If struggle there was- it was not of a civil, national character but of a rather communal, racial one.

    There is no Mauritian people- but several peoples living in Mauritius.

  6. MiniPhasme

    Si ma mémoire ne me trahit pas :
    Happy birthday, Siganus !

  7. Effectivement ce n’est pas le sang versé pour l’Indépendance mais le sang versé par les esclaves et les travailleurs engagés pour la première partie du développement du pays pendant les colonisations Françaises et Anglaises.

  8. Linus Asiaticus Magnus "Ochlomachos"

    Slaves and indentured have been no more than the casualties of civilisation. The French founded this nation, we owe them Port-Louis, the botanical gardens, and the French language, and to the English, development, progress, and political disenfranchisement. The authentic Mauritian civilisation is an Anglo-French one enriched with Afro-asian aspects. The cultural relativism and egalitarianism which is the result of indoctrination and demagoguery from political parties must be resisted.

    cf. Nietzsche Beyond Good and Evil. No. 199 etc.

    PS the slaves and indentured labourers did not form the aboriginal inhabitants of this island- the Dodo has more title thereto.

  9. Siganus K.

    Merci MiniPhasme. 42 ans suis-je assez mûr dorénavant pour mériter l’appellation “d’adulte” ?

  10. Siganus K.

    M.-L. : Est-ce que les quatre couleurs du drapeau ont une signification symbolique?

    Oui, comme pour tous les drapeaux sans doute. Mais celui-là ayant été fabriqué plutôt que le résultat d’une histoire, on peut lui trouver tous les symboles qu’on veut. Par exemple le rouge des flamboyants en décembre, le bleu sombre du ciel demain dès l’aube, le jaune « des grains de maïs » comme disait cet article du Monde consacré à Maurice, le vert de la Grande Rivière Nord-Ouest les mauvais jours. Ou le rouge du Parti travailliste, le bleu du Roy de France, le jaune du safran hindou (qui est orange, mais c’est pas grave) et le vert de l’islam à Plaine Verte. La “nation arc-en-ciel” a plus d’une couleur à son arc.
     
     
    Linus Asiaticus Magnus: There is no Mauritian people- but several peoples living in Mauritius.

    It was true, and is still true to some extent, but less and less. Nowadays we very much speak the same way, eat the same way, amuse ourselves the same way… Take each component of the rainbow and put it “back” to where it is supposed to belong and it will definitely feel foreign there. There is a Mauritian way of life and the sacrosanct question of the origins is becoming less and less relevant. This is particularly obvious when Mauritians meet abroad, their common Mauritian origin then being far more important than their kreolité, indianité, sinité or blanchitude.

  11. Linus Asiaticus Magnus

    It might be that the urban and rural realities are different. In towns, there is a great blurring of ways, customs, etc. Melting pots that do not necessarily produce a high degree of civilisation. Ethnic hygiene, excuse me of using the expression, is important both in countryside and cities when it comes to marriage, etc. In the countryside, while there is greater fellowship between the different ethnic groups, ethnic consciousness is no less present. On the contrary, the hierarchies of rural life do take into account ethnic realities.

    A Mauritian is heir to Mahe de Labourdonnais, General de Malartic, Adriend d’Epinay, Remy Ollier, Sir William Newton, Leoville l’Homme, etc. These except for the first 2, were true sons of the soil who worked for the welfare of the people.

    If i have a choice in London to be a member of some Mauritian club or the Athenaeum, my choice would obviously go to the latter, because abroad, i would do much to assimilate to the local population rather than insisting of eating carry tang in a country where there is no tang. This is an image of course.

    demain dès l’aube a l’heure ou blanchit la campagne- my fav Hugo poem- maybe too popular.

    Yet, my heart is certainly more moved to the tune of « God save the Queen », « I vow to thee my country », than to « Glory to thee ».

    The social law of racial/ethnic/cultural differentiation is not to be soon abolished, as Kipling put it:

    All good people agree,
    And all good people say,
    All nice people, like Us, are We
    And every one else is They:
    But if you cross over the sea,
    Instead of over the way,
    You may end by (think of it!) looking on We
    As only a sort of They!

  12. Siganus K.

    Linus: Ethnic hygiene, excuse me of using the expression, is important both in countryside and cities when it comes to marriage, etc.

    Yes, this is still largely true, but again things are not cast in stone in this regards. And there may also be other reasons than ethnicity or religion.

    Regarding God Save the Queen, I can’t say this song moves me at all, which isn’t the case for the Motherland. But we probably have had different stories.

    If I had the choice I would never belong to any club whatsoever. As Marx put it, I don’t care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.

  13. Linus A.M.

    Let’s the sake of expediency abbreviate the nomen and cognomen.

    There is much truth in what you say. But i have an endemic distrust of what the polloi call(s) « change ». Notice how in the name of rights another rights are necessarily infringed upon.

    Your citing other reasons for the practice of endogamic marriages, and the allusion to Marx- yes, other, perhaps, economic reason, if that is what you mean. Well, i think Weber on this account closes the debate in his distinction between what is(phenomenon) and what ought to be(noumenon)- a very Kantian one, which escaped Marx from his Hegelian point of view. He too often mistook his theory for reality.

    The use of club was purely figurative. I must confess myself to be an individualist (or hope to be).

    Is there any such thing as aggregate and collective interests in our types of societies, besides the concerns for rights? Even the need, exercise and protection of individual rights is not realised by the commoner, who goes on his way, letting the media and others form his opinion for himself, while he can safely enjoy or complain.

    Where’s the notion of responsibility to oneself?
    The discipline of self for the self is what, in my opinion, true individualism is about. But i digress. Man and God, or else, the Void.

  14. LAM: Your citing other reasons for the practice of endogamic marriages, and the allusion to Marx- yes, other, perhaps, economic reason, if that is what you mean.

    Not only. It can be cultural as well. I could never have married in a family that is going mad every time there is a football match on the TV.

  15. the practice of endogamic marriages

    Oh, que voilà un sujet intéressant : mariages arrangés, pour ne pas dire mariages forcés, versus mariages d’inclination, voire mariages d’amour – le droit des individus à disposer d’eux-mêmes relevant ainsi de la même doxa que le droit des peuples à disposer d’eux-mêmes..

    Et de fait, définir un peuple, c’est aussi difficile et aussi dangereux que définir l’amour !

  16. I’m wondering if Siganus and/or Linus realize that the Marx in question is Groucho. The club in question was the Friars’ Club of Beverly Hills; he was sending in his resignation. Apocryphally, another club refused to accept him as a member because he was Jewish. He sent them a letter asking if his granddaughter would be allowed to wade into the pool up to her waist.

    (As late as 1950, my half-Jewish wife was also banned from the pool at a hotel in Texas; she was seven at the time.)

  17. Siganus K.

    John, I was just doing like Alain de Botton who, while talking about Marxism, was referring to Groucho and not to Karl. Your wife was banned from a swimming pool in the USA in the 50s because of her Jewishness? It sounds hard to believe.
     
     
    Aquinze : Et de fait, définir un peuple, c’est aussi difficile et aussi dangereux que définir l’amour !

    Si on ne vit pas dans la forêt, dans la savane ou dans le désert, avec des interactions réduites avec les autres groupes humains, alors oui, en effet, il peut s’avérer difficile de cerner ce qu’est un peuple, la mixité brouillant les repères. Mais ce n’est pas obligatoire. Autour de Jos, au Nigeria, les Fulani et les Berom semblent pouvoir assez clairement se reconnaître les uns les autres.

  18. Yes, American Marxism is Groucho, not Karl.

    « Please accept my resignation. I don’t care to belong to any club that will accept me as a member. »
    -Groucho Marx, The Groucho Letters (1967)

    source: http://library.williams.edu/guides/quotations.php

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